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Teklord · Sep 13, 2005, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Fair enough, evidence was the wrong word. However my point was more along the lines of "Do we really need to be guessing as to what Arena Net intends?" Soloing isn't wrong, and it isn't right. My opinion: I don't believe a game designed around multiplay has any room for solo. But until such day comes when a representative from Arena Net says one way or the other, I will not try to guess their intents or desires on this (or any other) issue.

nitetime · Sep 13, 2005, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Teklord

Ah what the heck, I don't always have to be proper and nice so...

Where in 'Multiplayer' does the word 'Solo' show up?

Theres an 'I' and a 'ME'.

The milk shake · Sep 14, 2005, 12:35 AM // 00:35

heres the instant solution, give grasping darkness degen mesmer spells like
conjure phatasm, phantom pain, crippling anguish, that stuff, or possibly power block

Tyrent Frath · Sep 14, 2005, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Why can't we just let this topic die...

chaos dragoon · Sep 14, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47

all i can say is: good.stop trying to get the whole game nerfed,just because someone was creative and found a way to still solo.

Witchblade · Sep 14, 2005, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by ddoogle

Well Anet has tried to stop this by having the monsters use strip enchantments and changing protective bond BUT today i was in UW and a 105/55 monk tanked the whole place then after i got into a difernt party and another monk did the same... he seem to keep renewing bond with out getting hurt much at all, i have been with 105 monks before the update and these guys did it JUST as easy as before.

ANET GET IT SORTED!!! TRY HARDER

OMG !! OMG !! OMG !!

We dont care

If u dont wanna see it again .. delete all ur chars and play PvP mode Only

GWplayer745 · Sep 14, 2005, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by Teklord

Fair enough, evidence was the wrong word. However my point was more along the lines of "Do we really need to be guessing as to what Arena Net intends?" Soloing isn't wrong, and it isn't right. My opinion: I don't believe a game designed around multiplay has any room for solo. But until such day comes when a representative from Arena Net says one way or the other, I will not try to guess their intents or desires on this (or any other) issue.

Ok, so you're basically saying that people shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinions? What's wrong with trying to guess their intents or desires?

People try to guess other's intentions and/or desires in the real world also. Im sure that you too have done so many times. Sometimes we even discuss it with other people. So I really don't see what the problem is with trying to voice your opinion online, when Im sure that you, too, do (or have done) it at one point in your life.

Edit: After a little more thught, I can see where you're coming from. Perhaps you've seen so many people trying to guess ANet's intentions and/or what they will do next, that you've grown sick of seeing people discuss it. I can see that your reply to my post (just a couple posts above this one) is with reason...however, common sense states says that if one does not like to see something, then he/she will avoid it. So, if my psychological mind analysis brain skills are correct, then don't bother reading threads like these then.

KaPe · Sep 14, 2005, 01:19 AM // 01:19

"all i can say is: good.stop trying to get the whole game nerfed,just because someone was creative and found a way to still solo."

Make me. I'm one of those who don't want to have "insert-build-name" soloing supposedly toughest area in game. Just because. And I do hope there will be new "nerfs" that will make it impossible.
Actually, I'd prefer entire PvE content to become harder - I like challenges and there's clearly not enough of it, if "most challenging" area can be solo'ed.

Witchblade · Sep 14, 2005, 01:23 AM // 01:23

ppl are always complaining about lotsa stuff

Bots and Chest... all removed
Hard to unlock stuff? ... tons of easy px and BP
farming .... nerfed the drops
trade.... made green items

so what r u waiting for?? remove ALL the PvE content from GW.. just keep arenas and PvP stuff and kick the rest .... dammit

at the moment U LL cry ppl

romO · Sep 14, 2005, 01:26 AM // 01:26

i soloed uw with a mesmer before the latest patch and never had any trouble with it. and they sure didnt nerf my way. ^^

Witchblade · Sep 14, 2005, 01:28 AM // 01:28

soloed with a Mesmer? heh

how did u handle those aatxes? Peanuts-throwing at em?

(no offense, i m just curious

)

Theos · Sep 14, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32

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Originally Posted by romO

i soloed uw with a mesmer before the latest patch and never had any trouble with it. and they sure didnt nerf my way. ^^

Soloing with a mesmer I not worth it, time/kill ratio. It takes simply to long. Though we can always do it and have our clame to a build thats actually hard to use

How it is done... well many use SoMidnight, Epidemic, Spirt of Failure, Distortion, channeling and PBAoE spells.

I use... something more secret and kinda... odd...

Witchblade · Sep 14, 2005, 01:35 AM // 01:35

this IS already odd

but since ur soloing UW, that is bad ^^ lol

u know, "bad", like "crossing the streams" this also would be bad

heh

romO · Sep 14, 2005, 01:35 AM // 01:35

whoaaaa what are you talking about man? lol, i doubt that would even work. how do you live? no wonder it takes you so long. i just used basically the same thing as the monk soloers, smiting off myself, and maintaining prot spirit instead of prot bond since i didnt have bonettis defense. no mesmer skills at all. its harder because you need to think about your prot spirit, but its just as fast and wasnt nerfed with the patch.

EmperorTippy · Sep 14, 2005, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Hmm..Lets see...I told you all the day of the patch (maybe the morning after) that a solo smite run was still doable easiely. A smite run can still be soled by the following (I have personally tested each of these repeatedly so others may be able to do it but I'm not sure) E/Mo, Mo/W, Mo/Me, R/N, N/R, Mo/E, and N/Mo. Every one of those builds (except R/N) is still more time efficent than an average 8 person PUG. Three of those builds are as efficent as all but the best guild groups for a smite run. One of the builds is more efficent (No it isn't the Mo/W).

Now the most efficent is an excellent guild group on Vent/TS that clears the whoel UW because once you get past a smite runs the drops pick up greatly and improve massivly. With guildes/friends we can easily net 100K worth of drops (each) by clearing UW. And that is with no more than 1 drop worth over 10K.

The first quest or 2 of FoW can still be soloed (Only by very specific builds and by very good players) but it is less efficent than the average PUG.

Now who really cares who can solo an UW smite run?

For the people who just copied the posted Mo/W build and are complaining I have no sympathy for you. Go make your own build. I am still annoyed at the idiot who posted the build but her posting it made me more money than 100 solo runs would (and in less time).

To those who came up with their own build before the Mo/W was posted online you have my congradulations. We are the only ones who have a rite to complain yet we are the ones complaing the least.

To those complaining that anyone can solo a smite run I say Why? You were the same people complaining about the price of Ecto and Shards, yet the solo craze lowered the costs on both drasticly.

To the W/Mo players who are complaining GET OVER IT. The solo builds were invented because most monks don't like dealing with the 99% of you who were/are idiots.

So stop complaining people as ANet has already done the almost perfect nerf unless the people who can still solo a smite run are idiots again. The nerf was jsut enough to stop the cookie cutter build yet it wasn't so harsh as to stop the smart players among us from making builds that can solo a smite run.

Orvix Thang · Sep 14, 2005, 05:02 AM // 05:02

Got some news for the whiners. Anet is going to do whatever gets them the most sales. So whine away, we take names and make sure never to group with you.

Sekkira · Sep 14, 2005, 05:15 AM // 05:15

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Originally Posted by Teklord

Ah what the heck, I don't always have to be proper and nice so...

Where in 'Multiplayer' does the word 'Solo' show up?

Where in 'Multiplayer' does 'Have to play with others' show up?

Lasareth · Sep 14, 2005, 05:21 AM // 05:21

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Originally Posted by Orvix Thang

Got some news for the whiners. Anet is going to do whatever gets them the most sales. So whine away, we take names and make sure never to group with you.

Two words: Vocal Minority

ddoogle · Sep 14, 2005, 01:03 PM // 13:03

wow just got back to this thread and found a load of greedy farmers giving it their all!

aron searle · Sep 14, 2005, 01:09 PM // 13:09

I used to be against solo UW.

But now i really couldnt give a monkeys if someone can solo UW, i mean how exactly does it affect me??

all i care about is that any attempts to stop this DONT AFFECT THE REST OF US.